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Message par Minimausi85 le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:25

hi

my name ist melanie
i'm from germany near cologne.


I am 25 years old, my husband 27 years, our older daughter for 5 years and the youngest just months 10th
I breed mice and dwarf hamsters (Campbell) in the small frame.
I breed club in which we have established ourselves
This is called internalized the IGR (interessengmeinschaft for gerbils and small rodents breed)
I landed here by chance and even though the google translator does not translate seamlessly
but I've read some stuff * g *

my englisch ist not so good but i hope someone anderstand me XD

greatings mel

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Message par Dawww le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:31

"stuff * g *" What it is?

Welcome Minimausi here.
Here we speak frenche, but I think that we can make an effort to speak with you in English.

I hope you will present us your club and your mices.
We loves pictures Coeur.

Some of my friend here (Banzaii and Lee) we created the first club from rodents in France : Here presentation

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Message par sourismania le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:32

Welcome! Smile
Even if I did not understand the message above

I would like look to see photos of your hamster and your mouse


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Message par Dawww le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:37

Minimausi85 a écrit:hi

my name ist melanie
i'm from germany near cologne.

Bonjour,

Mon nom est Mélanie.
Je suis Allemande et je vie près de Cologne.


I am 25 years old, my husband 27 years, our older daughter for 5 years and the youngest just months 10th
J'ai 25 ans, mon mari 27, notre fplus vieilles filles à 5 ans et la dernière à 10 mois.

I breed mice and dwarf hamsters (Campbell) in the small frame.
J'éleve des souris et des hamster (campbell) (?)

I breed club in which we have established ourselves
J'ai établis un club moi même.
This is called internalized the IGR (interessengmeinschaft for gerbils and small rodents breed)
Il s'apelle IGR (club pour Gerbilles et petits rongeurs)
I landed here by chance and even though the google translator does not translate seamlessly
but I've read some stuff * g *
(il y a un truc qu'elle arrive pas à traduire)

my englisch ist not so good but i hope someone anderstand me XD

greatings mel

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Message par Invité le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:43

Welcome Melanie Sourire.

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Message par Minimausi85 le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:49

hi
French is too difficult for me. I already fight with my English the DX is hard for me.

but I find it exciting to try new and know new people. This is fun. you can still write in French, will google me help you understand

I hope XD

HP is built really nice .. I think the idea is good, in Germany there were previously only DMRM
because I and a few other breeders but this does not agree in all points so we have our own business. independent.

We place less value on the look (this is just a bonus if we do it right on) but exclusively feed on healthy animals, fancy mice, and selected the best possible posture udn good feed. we try the "mouse" to get something more healthy and vigorous food animals in order to draw a snake and other reptile holders keep a healthy alternative to provide an alternative to pet shops.

and it works well.

oh some animal cih can well imagine, I only look for the perfect place for it ok ? or should I set this?

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Message par _Banzaii. le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 22:56

Welcome here, Melanie !

Many members are enough aged to undertand english I mean...
Otherwise, we can use translators to understand each other if there are some understanding problems !

Besides, I'm really happy to see that a german breeder logged in here !
May have you many things to tell us about you and your breeding methods ?

EDIT : The fact that you work on the health condition in priority is a really good point !
What's the life expectancy in average of your mice ?
Do you work on relationship between mice ?

Are you willing to go to Hamm/Houten in April ? Will take you a table ?

We can continue to speak english on this subject, I find it would be a really interesting experiment !

Hope you'll send several photos of your mice and hamsters !

See you soon !

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Message par Lee le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 23:20

Welcome here! It's nice to see foreign breeders coming over our forum Very Happy

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Message par Invité le Ven 14 Jan 2011 - 23:47

Welcome here Melanie =)

Nice to see you here.

Can I write in German xD
Well no =)

I'll see.
Here is for me one of the beste Forum in France =)

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 15:09

Besides, I'm really happy to see that a german breeder logged in here !
May have you many things to tell us about you and your breeding methods ?

EDIT : The fact that you work on the health condition in priority is a really good point !
What's the life expectancy in average of your mice ?
Do you work on relationship between mice ?

Are you willing to go to Hamm/Houten in April ? Will take you a table ?

We can continue to speak english on this subject, I find it would be a really interesting experiment !
Hello
I breed mice for 3 years now, starting with normal mice feed.
We try to get along completely without lethal gene, and that is to fill in the colors no problem;-)

color or gene that will apply in Germany as painful breed avoided.

I cross animals with only a Inzuchtkoefizienten of less than 1.5% and a ahnenverlusstkoefizienten below 10%.
no inbreeding.
I'm in animals from foreign breeding while backcrosses to the health check, but these puppies remain in the breeding and are then usually fed with 6 months.
they are not aviable ...

my mice have a lifetime of1, 5 - 2.5 years, some even 3 years if they had any puppies.

(ich müsste das übersetzen lassen weil ich nicht weis wie man das schreibt.. ich ziehe alle meine tiere nur aus sotzialen linien, sie sollen gruppentauglich sein und menschenfreundlich, wichtig ist aber das sie nicht abstumpfen .hatte schon mäuse bei mir die nichts kannten und totale zombies waren, nicht geklettert, nicht gespielt .. guckten eine total passiv an.. das ist nicht gesund, und solche willenlosen tiere möchte ich nicht ziehen, karakter dürfen sie haben ;-))

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Message par Invité le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 15:12

Alors je traduit le reste (ich dolmetsche es =))

J'eleve que des animaux avec un bon sens sociale et qui sont sociable en groupe et avec l'humain.
Ceci dit je ne rechcerche pas de faire des animaux amporphe mais tranquille, ayant leur caractère et très sociable

Les animaux qui sont des zombie (genre ne joeunt pas, sont amporhe) je n'en veut pas...
Pour moi c'est des souris malade.

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 15:17

thank you *knuddel*

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Message par Invité le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 15:19

gern geschehen xD
It's ggod for my english and german xD
Now I'm practicing it xD

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 15:25

*looool*
learning englisch an german in a french mouse forum *rofl*
verry cool

XD

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Message par _Banzaii. le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 16:40

Right !

In France, we still have lots of problem to keep bucks together because they can't bear each other at all...
How do you proceed to select bucks who will be bred ?
I mean that you have to wait and see during months and months how will evolve each buck with others ?

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 17:16

hi

this is really not a big problem, only it usually means that you can't always keep the "prettiest" .
I got my young boy-groups with one or more adults in different ages

First, important is the buck ever with its own litter has grown, so he knows what to do with the small. some of my bucks are frendy and they are all the time in jung boy groupes, and they will never be by there litters.

ähm they get to the female and do his work and then he after e week alone he will get back to jung bucks.

know the only adult males are very reluctant to bring up young bucks, they started to beat. Good fathers can also be good uncle;-)

they are associated with little space in a transport box.

if there peacefully sleeping and the typical baby squeaking stops. squeaking, no beating ;-) the dont be real fights!
i put them into a duna.

without homes or hide.

if things remain peaceful and he have cuddle together when they marked everything up, they get first hatched or a house every day.
now you have to put in wath you can, later you can put them out if they are begins to fighting.

not oll bucks are so friendly, but if you selekt only the friendly mans, you will get only friendly bucks and so it works later. but some nice bucks just have to go becouse they are to aressiv.


when you get an jungboy groupe, you pic out the agressiv first and with the athters you can breed.

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Message par _Banzaii. le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 17:49

OK, thank you for the explanation !

I've tried to integrate the buck I keep with his father (Bew), but I've no hope...
Bew attacks the little buck without smelling it at all !...

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 18:06

hm

if you get 2 bucks, the older buck are more interesing at the jounger. if you get a group of jung bucks to a adult, he can't (konzentrieren/festlegen/) on one. he has to kontrolld them all.

so he would be give up if he lerans that they are to many to kontrole the all ..all the time. and he beginns to enjoy the contakt.

many bucks dont like junger bucks, if they are older than 7 weeks...
do you put them together and they are 5-7 weeks old, it will be mutch better

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Message par _Banzaii. le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 18:24

I didn't think of that at all !

But now, "babies" are around 60 days, and largly have the age to go to other families.
They are almost adults in fact...

What do you think about ?

I'm really afraid to have not enough time to separate the bucks in a fight...
And I'll be so sad if one of them die because of this experiment...

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 18:38

hm

if they are fight, they will do this all the time, if they are sleeping together, it will be get no problems.
of couce not for everytime, but 2 month i think..
al my boys are in boy groups (thas souns like a musik group *lol* XD) . i mean al bucks are in a buckgroupe and it works. mice who will be attack an ather mice will be snakefood. thats hard but i breed foodmice and i never leave a buck alone longer than a week

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Message par _Banzaii. le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 19:00

Do your bucks which leave in a group really close to human ?

Each buck that I keep (alone) is really really close to me, he keeps wanting to go with me, and I love this kind of behavior !!

Besides, some little bucks begin to fight at the time, even so there're brothers and really young...
With time, I'm sure that they should be separated because they'll be unable to agree...

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 19:23

hi
yes and no XD

some bucks are verry nice and love me, but some of them will be by themself.

but i dont wont that my mice come to me because they have no ather partner . no mousepartner.
bucks are more open-mided than gils, so if you get o lot of kontakt to them, you will be the best and frindlyest and open-minded buck selekt from the rest of the group. and this buck will be the vather from the next pupies


you will sea that the pupies are more intrsting on you and after a wihle you will get only mices like there.

no peaple can be a real partner for am mice. they nead an mousefriend.
but if you seperate them too fare, they dont lerant to live in boy grops..

of course by time you have to seperate, but some under proper fights are normal and if they sleep together it dont be so dangerous.

if you are far away often, or for al long time (work or something like that) and you arent shure that it works, it will be saver you seperate them!!! thats true.

i can be there all the time and in this situation you have to sure about it.

my bucks will be cleand up every day, but only one hand change every day, so the bucksmel is everytime there and it provokes no fightings! thats verry im protant . lg mel

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Message par MymiTsume le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 19:41

Welcome here!

I'm sorry my english is so bad, but I wish you pass a good time in our forum!

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Message par _Banzaii. le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 19:47

I always keep a part of the dirty litter to avoid fighting and it works well !

But, this morning, my boyfriend told me that bucks was fighting almost everytime, they didn't stop...
By taking a look when I came back, I notice that the buck I keep has injuries (bites) on the back.

Now the "nasty" buck is alone and the others don't fight at the moment, I hope that things remain unchanged !

However, I can't kill bucks who can't live in a group just because I don't want it to live alone...
He can't live with others, he'll live alone until the end of his life and that's all. Wink

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Message par Minimausi85 le Sam 15 Jan 2011 - 20:21

that's your decision.
this is perfectly ok, but I want to keep my animals humanely. individual housing is no option for me.

but that must decide each for himself, I do not find it normal.
mice live in groups. In nature they live in mixed groups of men and girls. the adult male also live there with young bucks, but they eventually pass away .. But as long as they do not fight with the senior buck to make the ranking system they can stay.

in a breeding must respond to compromises ... and I'll try to be as good as she can to give the possibility to live in groups when they have to go very solitary them.
diee behave because they pass on to her pups on and then I get even with the puppy problems in the group

I had a bock of roland fischer extream in half black, all boys and girls were offspring even some very aggressive, with 8 weeks of nowhere they could fix everything and each other, they have also argued. they were so beautiful I had to part with them.
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